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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
极简舞台风格 光影是亮点 但整体的风格化甚至不如15年库泽尔那部《麦克白》 表演上科恩嫂比华盛顿表现的好 当然 还是跟人物角色有关 麦克白夫人的确是这个故事中最有趣的存在
绝妙的视觉风格，感觉把黑白光影运用到了极致，呈现的效果超越了一般意义上的复古。但同时也几乎放弃了对原作的任何解读，感觉就像是用影像的形式看了一版set design极其出色但文本保守演绎也没有态度的话剧。
观感不如黑泽明的《麦克白》，《蜘蛛巢城》，喜欢那个三面间谍……
复古的画幅，极简而考究的布景，舞台剧的形式，整体情节虽简约，但对于单个场景的设计却很有创意与深意，达到了叙事与拍摄风格的统一与呼应。
固定摄影导致空间感的缺失让人感觉是在用电影拍话剧
删繁就简，打造了神秘的史诗，黑白影像展现了光影艺术。丹泽尔与科恩嫂都不错，唯独故事弱了点。
棚拍制作出来舞台美学
其实是地
刚看完剧本看这个 这片还真的蛮遵循原著的
不好意思，尽管黑人演员们演技都还可以 但是丹泽尔华盛顿操着一口美国黑人口音扮演一个古代苏格兰人实在让我太别扭了，其他的黑人语言像“babe” “ cuz” 什么的，这是在搞笑吗？ A24 拜托您别再糟蹋经典了好吗？
虽然不是烂片，但是这风格，那么有我最喜欢的丹泽尔，也看不下去了
尽管我确实是一个痴迷于风格化电影语言的人，但乔尔科恩这部转型之作实在难称满意，丹泽尔华盛顿和McDormand的表演确实很好，但在这种稠密层叠的黑白光影和A24画幅下，这两位老熟人实在难以搭建一场信服感强烈的莎翁对手戏。而剧本对于原文台词的保留，与通篇浓郁的后现代解构意味和极简置景之间，并没有做到气质上的想通，以至于全片浓郁的当代戏剧感完全压过了电影感，也许他希望观众从中能看到德莱叶，看到伯格曼，但很遗憾我实在做不到。
虽然是改编自莎翁经典著作，但与其说是一部电影，不如说是一部电影画面下的舞台剧，唯一亮点就是黑白画风和摄影（估计能拿奖），故事冗长老套乏味，台词也是各种碎碎念，让人看的昏昏欲睡，连奥斯卡老学究们都没给个什么有份量的提名，更别说普通观众会有多喜欢，唯独的影帝提名在本届众多优秀种子选手面前也显得黯淡无光。两星吧，不推荐。
确实拍的很好 但不是我杯茶 评分是个人喜好度不代表质量
又是一部影像美学大于一切的电影，极简风格忠实还原了莎士比亚的文本，摄影布景灯光令人叹为观止。尤其对女巫、寓言、鬼魅、梦幻等超现实奇观的表现，又cult又诡谲，又伯格曼又黑泽明。
纽约电影节开幕片，见到了Joel Coen, Denzel Washington, Frances McDormand。坦白说台词几乎一句都没听懂，莎士比亚般的对白实在考验听力，而且这场好晚好晚，开头有点昏昏欲睡。喜欢打光和摄影，结尾的设计。这部真的没有太多“科恩”的感觉。
不懂就问，莎翁时代英国有黑人吗？黑白演员混合的白人故事就特别别扭。
很稳的改编，摄影和音效设计尤其出彩。在寂静空荡、好似噩梦般的城堡里，每段声音似乎都被放大扭曲，也在听觉上促进了Macbeth的暴躁多疑。放映后和Joel + Frances的q&a记几个印象深刻的回答：黑白摄影是最容易将图像变得抽象的方法，以此从中达到一种极简；台词是最重要的，它的韵律感要和音效相辅相成。#nyff59
光看画面不错，麦克白是不是黑人我也不懂，德不配位是肯定的。当大型实景舞台剧看看还行，多的意思也不大。
摄影和转场太好了。看科恩拍莎翁，总觉得里面人物会干出奇怪的事情hhhh
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