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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
虽然我不是特喜欢这么美式的音乐，一开始觉得过于激情澎湃，但整部电影其实是在用激情澎湃的音乐来庆祝一个人在有限生命里获得的伟大成就。乔恩的作品很难说不是他燃烧生命创作的，为了创作伟大的作品他甘愿过着贫寒低下的生活，这样纯粹的生命值得用最滥情最激扬的音乐赞美。
如果你喜欢broadway音乐剧，或者了解Jonathan Larson本人，或许会喜欢本片。但是作为不看音乐剧的人，这片子最大的问题就是太不像电影，导演太自我陶醉于致敬和缅怀，而没能讲好故事，两个时空（tick tick…boom音乐剧时空，和回忆中创作superbia的时空）观感上撕裂太严重，用来填充歌曲的画面也不够紧凑和好看，甚至歌曲都没能好听到让人记得几首。看完只能让人觉得男主角是another struggling artist in New York，纽约有太多太多这样的人了。PS，加菲演的没问题，歌喉也不错，但是现在吹的那么凶的拿奥斯卡男主肯定是没希望的。
7/10。直接用传主本人的作品为题材拍摄传记片，情怀和致敬的成分点满。原声音乐不搭景和抓耳对于音乐片而言是很大的问题，但Jonathan Larson的故事以及加菲锦上添花的表演依然足够打动人心。（P.S.演示会上的reserved seat一段太容易跳戏到La La Land，原来过期糖还是挺好嗑）
看到好多音乐剧大佬的客串。剪辑很好，音乐的表现力也挺有想法。加菲真的能唱，有点意外。
音乐密集到完全淡化了Jon的创作困境 女友和朋友完全是工具人的存在 并不能通过电影共情 （除了吵架那段是真的很上头 失去了对人物内里的挖掘 过多的曲目堆砌其实意义并不大...但加菲的表演还是很精彩！
太爱这部电影了，加菲我是夸累了。
Cages or wings which do you prefer?
电影里呈现出的Jonathan Larson，其实和他的那部最著名的作品一样，充斥着某种程度的自私、自以为是、自我中心……但是，我无法讨厌这一切，因为我无法拒绝其中蕴含的真挚和才华。看了不少关于Rent的各种缺点的小论文，很多我也无意反驳，但它始终打动我心，Jonathan Larson也始终让我无比难过——如果他能够继续下去，他一定会创造出不留任何遗憾的作品。
音乐歌舞类电影在我这自带加分。
剧作就很弱了，堆砌大量人物关系，叙事逻辑和节奏都相当的混乱。
像是和哎嘛石头的某种隔空共舞，奈何歌曲实在是不怎么抓我。
至少可以
恰逢故事中的年龄段，社会时钟一直滴答滴，一直在抗争着摆脱焦虑跟着自己的节奏走。电影很工整，音乐很流行，加菲进步了。
唱给女友的那段击中了泪点，推荐给了做音乐编剧和音乐人朋友，身边也不乏这样有趣又有才华的灵魂，都值得好好珍惜，现实世界里因为这些看似不太现实的人的存在才会丰富和精彩。
不错的音乐剧，虽然不如《爱乐》，惊讶于加菲的表演，竟然唱得这么好~
百老汇音乐剧这玩意应该是西方戏剧文化的衍变产物，看不懂，不过豆瓣分数一直都超高，大概有一些流行的附魅因素。
对于坚持啦梦想啦腾空之前的蛰伏啦，这种表达方式打动不了我。
片尾音乐好听。电影不好看。虽然知道是基于艺术界的真人真事，自己对耳边充斥着ticktick声音的感受感触也很深，但是我还是过于厌倦于看这些现实和梦想的冲突的电影了。女方想为了男主差点放弃工作的时候让我有一丝丝不适，不过还好最终还是选择了自己的事业。
Why can't you stay 29
简直是恐三十岁患者的警钟...但真的很好哭，依然是为了未实现梦想而崩溃流泪的一天，哭完继续咸鱼罢了。
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